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Chris Brown and Rihanna: “A Lovers’ Tiff”

March 17th, 2009
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Chris Brown and Rihanna - November 11th - Perth, Australia

Chris Brown will argue in court that his alleged attacks on Rihanna were just a “lovers’ tiff.” Brown has told his lawyers to put the claim in in hopes of getting the assault charges dropped.

“He will argue it was a misunderstanding between two young people passionately in love.”

Brown’s lawyers want a special court hearing in LA next week and said the police photo of Rihanna’s injuries, that circulated online, means a fair trial is impossible.

SOURCE: Music-News.com / 411Mania.com

mel

if this is true i hope his lawyer has a backup plan i'm scared the judge will not be pleased with just this lovers tiff ?? excuse..
even if i was what probably really went down…

i'm hoping chris is not hiding the whole story just so that rihanna will not look bad after she helped him
by not wanting to press charges or testify.

http://CHRISBROWNWEB.COM CHANTAL

i just hope that it works and the charges get dropped i love chris brown so much and i pray for him every night if your a fan hear me outt!! pray for chris and jus hope to god alll this clears up and his life come back to normal because he should be able to get a second chance for his mistake lets get it together rihanna did hit him as well, im not sayin he should just hit her or it was right to but she dont have the rights to hit him…. my heart goes to u chris and your family

mel

PS. i love this picture chris looks sooooooooooooooo cute rubbing his eyes like that aaawwwwwwwwwwww:)

http://intensedebate.com/people/Calisfinest21 Calisfinest21

I know right! I was thinkin the same thang!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Bubblez589 Bubblez589

aw, he does! i wasn't even paying attention to the picture! he looks so cute!

…wow we're pathetic lol

http://intensedebate.com/people/Calisfinest21 Calisfinest21

April 6th is not coming fast enough…i'm hatin all these stories goin around..it's hard to figure out what to believe..but i do hope that this all plays out in his favor.

musikfreak

i know…the longer they wait to settle this the more rumors are gonna spread and his career is gonna get even more damaged. i hope everything works out fine for him

http://CHRISBROWNWEB.COM CHANTAL

WHY WOULD U WANT APRIL 6TH TO COME I WANT ITT TO GO SLOW SO ITT CANN RELIVE ALL HISS STRESS AWAY AND THEN WHEN HE GO TO COURT BUT IT GIVES FANS ENOUGH TIME TO PRAY VERY HARDD BUT I KNOW MORE STUFF WILL BE SPREAD BUT I JUS HOPE EVERYTHING CLEAR UPP SOON AND LETS JUS SEE WAT THE LORD HAVE N STROE FOR US AND GIVE US WHAT WE WAITING FOR I LOVE U CHRIS BROWN

Heaven-Sent

Let's all give keep Chris in our prayers, with everyone wishing the worst for him, he really needs the support from his fans.

http://intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

We tryin girl, but whit us not gettin any answers it's gettin hard….

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

I'm witcha, but wit playin da waitin & da guessin game, it's frustration….

Lotus

Okay I just hope he gets over this and come back to. Why we loved him in the first place. but what I don’t get is when they said the pics of rihanna would make a fair trial impossible!!! What does that mean and can someone explain!??

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

Well I don't believe that one! That's gotta be the weakest defense ever & I'm sure his very experienced defense atty isn't using that "a lovers tiff" excuse when evidence clearly proves there was an physical altercation where as "lovers tiffs" are NOT PHYSICAL, especially two people "passionately in love".

I can understand that Chris may have been told if Rihanna does testify, his atty Geragos would have to really get at her on the cross examination. This can include bringing up that she may have been highly intoxicated along with known bouts of physical temper tantrums, she could have well provoked the altercation which led Chris, who was driving at the time, into a self defensive mode to avoid a possible fatal car accident. Chris probably would not want her to go thru any further humiliation.

This is just my take on it. I watch entirely too many court TV programs, aha lol.

Heaven-Sent

Will they show the court section on television April 6?

JMK8205

Unnamed sources = I don't belive it. However, if it's true, somebody needs to tell Chris to fire his legal team. Their ONLY concern needs to be negotiating a plea bargain with the DA, so he can plead guilty to a misdemeanor and get fines and probation as the sentence. They cannot let this case go to trial.
Stay up, Chris.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

ummm but idk if after filing FELONY charges, the DA is would be willing to settle for misdemeanor charges. They want blood & to use them as an example of what young people "should not do" especially when it comes to their reconciliation

musikfreak

it mean that the jury is already biased by seeing the pictures of rihanna beat up. the picture might have made up their minds that it was his fault and that he beat her up so badly that he should go to jail so they would base their decision on the picture and not on all of the evidence.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@musikfreak
thanks for explaining that & that's what makes me the most nervous. How are they gonna find an unbiased jury since this issue has been all over worldwide news!

http://intensedebate.com/people/musikfreak musikfreak

your welcome…thats so true, i dont think they will find an unbiased jury. maybe the case may be dismissed because of that..but then again i want him to go to court and have the truth come out and rihanna take the blame for her part in this altercation. but then what if he is sent to jail. ugh this is too hard and confusing, i just hope everything works out for the best

msgigi

i watch to much court drama and tv. beside that i have life experience too. base on public opinion Chris guilty and needs to do some time and speak out. if you look in the history of these celeb case this one is receiving a lot of coverage. I guess because two people involve are popular with the children. with that said a lot these celeb do get off with probation and classes. base on the leak report damage was done to Rihanna. I don’t see that in her current pics.

jlovecb

The MIchael Baisen show is talking about it. Everyone please call 1-877-6-badboy and defend him. Not to bash her but just say that it's just as bad for girls to hit boys, and that honestly we don't know what happened. It could have happened in self-defense. If a person has lived 19 years and still nobody has one single bad thing to say about them, not a teacher, not an ex-girlfriend, nobody prior to this, then this just doesn't add up. I hate to say it but every day you hear more bad stuff about her, and that's not blaming the victim-it's just the truth. It's purely her violent past and nobody can change it, but the media has not been fair and this is our time to talk.

Yasmine

Damn why'd you post this? A 'lovers tiff' is no way of defining what went down seriously, come on. I hope they explain it in more detailed terms at the hearing because they fought, like punches and all out scratching out the eyes etc. That aint no """""lovers tif""""". SMH.

April 6th y'all, lets wait it out, thank god for Lindsay Lohan acting a fool right now, people have left CB get on with sorting himself out.

cb4life

everyone needs to calm down, its highly unlikely that chris will get any jail time at all which is what people are worried about

http://intensedebate.com/people/samantha2 samantha2

"April 6th y'all, lets wait it out, thank god for Lindsay Lohan acting a fool right now, people have left CB get on with sorting himself out."

so true.
we should be screaming out"THANK YOU LINDSAY!
LOL.

but its a a bit rough to tell the judge."OH WE HAD A LOVERS' TIFF THAT'S ALL.SO I CAN I GO NOW??"
LOL.
sorry but it aint going to work like that.

hiafa

hahahaha that is so funny, but i told you that Chris was going to try and think of some kind of stuff so she wouldn't look to bad or he wouldn't look to bad, but it just don't sound right, it sounds funny. i knew he would do something like this. i feel so sorry for him because he is so lost in what to do, he need to just let the chips fall where they may, she'll be in a lot of mess, but it is what it is. he's being to nice,but he loves her and he don't want her to take a big fall. but thats Chris, you know , what can you do. but after this he is going on he's own way, you can tell it weights on him to much. a lot of his song talks about this stuff relationships and how tough it is and how it hurts, like Cry No More and Back To Back, he's going to get on down the road i can just see it.

Shan

All over the enternet ive heard Rihanna's photos have been airbrushed i hope chris dosent do jail time!

Heaven-Sent

Where did you hear this?

http://intensedebate.com/people/musikfreak musikfreak

i hope so

http://intensedebate.com/people/T_MARINO T_MARINO

lol. this is foolish!

v.v

i agree wit cb4life just relax every one chris will be fine and all we have to do is pray for chris and just wait til april 6 and hopefully wait til the next concert thats he goin to have…

Liz

He should FIRE his attorney's if they even bring "A lovers tiff" to the judge. Come on, how stupid. A lovers tiff wouldn't cause her face to be beaten like the photo showed. He would do better claiming "temporary insanity". He really flipped out on her but I'm sure she was flipping out and beating him too. I don't think this case will be as easy as fans would like it to be. If that was truly the real picture (which I think they would have denied it if it wasn't) then Chris has alot to answer for in the court of law and public opinion.

in denial

Guys, I'm trying not to be in denial and I'm trying to accept that he did it, but still some things just don't add up to me. I don't want to support a woman beater, but the part on her report where she said that she pretended like she called her assistant doesn't make sense to me. First, if he was in a mad rage and had already punched her, how was she able to pretend like she called her assistant and get two sentences out? Doesn't it seem like if he was beating her he would have knocked the phone out of her hand the minute she picked it up? And I know that you're not thinking at a time like that, by why say to have the police waiting when I get home? If you want to scare somebody to stop beating you, then pretend to tell your friend to send the police to where you are. They'll never take you home if you say the cops are there. And why sit on the keys?

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@in denial
I'm not in denial bc I believe Chris isn't this monster they're portraying him as. But yea, I see the same holes in her story which any experienced detective should have seen thru. This case should have never been taken this far.

It's mad weird how the D.A. didn't consider prosecuting it with the exact same evidence that they initially had when they sent the case back to the police. Hmmm, very strange

in denial

I said the same thing. I think that if they didn't charge him with anything the public would have been angry because she's made him look like an attempted murderer, so they had to charge him with something just based on what she said. But in a way I'm glad. That picture does not show the face of a woman beaten over and over with a fist. It looks like her main injuries came from hitting that window, and she could have done that just by them fighting. I don't see how they can have worse pictures either unless they were taken at the scene. But it seems like that would be the one that was released since it was intended to turn people against Chris, so why not release the worst one. I almost believe that Rihanna's camp released that picture because she was still mad at Chris, because what happened to the investigation about the leak?

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

Me 2….This whole thing is gettin on my laz nerves!!!!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

that photo shouldn't be allowed as evidence. Reportedly they have other tho but yea I've heard fm professional photographers that photo has been compromised. But the entire case has so Geragos has his work cut out for him. hopefully Chris has some photos of himself.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@Heaven-Sent
Yes, it should be televised. It starts at 8:30 AM PST

Bubblez589

BS I dnt believe that! That’s a stupid plead.

hiafa

you are right so right, i read about her beating up her brother hiting him with a bottle spiting he head open, and also she was fighting her big brother, you are go right

http://intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

U gotta point dere….I would neva tell a man, no offense, especially a black man dat da cops R waitin on U whwn U drop me off…

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

U gotta point dere….I would neva tell a man, no offense, especially a black man dat da cops R waitin on U when U drop me off…

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@C_Jenae
thats whats up, lol! i mean isn't ezr 2 dial 911 than a 7-11 digit # unless she had it on speed dial but if she was so busy getting beat in the face, how could she dial a number or better yet, what abusers gonna let their victim dial ANY #. Heck they auto think you're clg the police

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@C_Jenae
thats whats up, lol! i mean isn't it ezr 2 dial 911 than a 7-11 digit # unless she had it on speed dial but if she was so busy getting beat in the face, how could she dial a number or better yet, what abusers gonna let their victim dial ANY #. Heck they auto think you're clg the police

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@hiafa
1st of all this is only a RUMOR, not a FACT so pls stop blaming Chris for anything you see in print. Sorry but we can't complacently say "just let the chips fall where they may" because a great injustice is going on here.

His life may depend on the outcome of this trial i.e. whether or not he get's prison time. The assault charge carries a minimum 2-4 yr jail or prison sentence & the criminal threat charge carries a minimum 1 yr prison sentence (not jail). So as you might see, this isn't something not to be concerned about. Not to mention he won't have his security in prison so he may not be able to simply "get on down the road". His life MAY definitely be in jeopardy even as a p.c.

http://intensedebate.com/people/hiafa hiafa

wait a min, i was not talking about Chris going to jail, he is not going to jail, he is trying to make it not so bad on rihanna, it was said that she hit him first, thats all anyone can go by, she is the one looking bad not him, it's just not being talked about, thats what the petition is all about. I'M FOR CHRIS ALWYS HAVE BEEN, not for her, but he does love her and it is what it is, i was saying he should let her handle her on problem ok.. the petition is called rihanna's abuse should not go unmentioned. A CHRIS BROWN FAN FOREVER.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@cb4life
why would u think that? just curious

brianna

actually that might be true! i heard that he wont go to jail because this was his first trouble. i also heard he just has to do community service. just like what happened to tyson "it might not be him". and its very easy to get out of trouble in L.A.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@Liz
Right! We want it to be ez but the DA obviously want more than us. They want to use him as an example! Hopefully this new judge will see thru this & do the sensible thing

Mariah

LOL! Okay please tell me that this is just a rumor, Because that is so stupid. And "lover's tiff" my ass! That was not just some "misunderstanding" between two lovers. And I wish they would stop using that leaked photo of Rihanna as an excuse hoping that the judge will let them off the hook.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

Hey, let's not 4get March 23rd. I hope we will hear more about that meeting with Geragos, Etra, the judge & the D.A.

Ciara

He beat her ass, And she's trying to help him? wtf is wrong with that girl?? She's really stupid!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@Ciara
huh? how do we know he beat her ass? have we seen pics of him right after the fight? NO, I think not. They both had healing time from wounds after a few weeks when we finally saw pics of them both.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@in denial
yea sounds like something her camp would have done that to turn everyone against Chris & yea she was probably still mad about losing the fight & getting humiliated in front of the world.

Idk what ever happened with the LAPD investigation of that leak which is another source weirdness with this case

I Can't Believe it!!

SMH @ u dummies. Why in the hell is everyone so quick to believe this bullsh*t? There is no way in hell they would let that leak. U have a rumor a day and you want to believe this sh*t of course the RD folks want to run with it but those with good damn sense no good and well no body would expect that mess to fly. Keep amening to TMZ and the rest of the j*c offs.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@brianna
Ps dont believe what you hear, especially about how ez it is for a "black man" to get out of trouble in the racist city of L.A. I know, I live here & the police do racial profiling, shoot & kill unarmed black men like it's the law. So far, there were 3 such deaths since Jan 1st this year.

I've listed the punitive laws somewhere below, as they are shown in the State of California, Penal Code violation sentencing guide. Neither of the FELONIES he's been charged with have a community service option. Of course special deals can be negotiated with the prosecutor but these felonies carry prison/jail time and/or fines.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@I Can't Believe it!!
uhhh, have u read our "dummy" comments? It doesn't seem as if any of us believe this story so idk where you're coming from

http://intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

lol….I mean really…

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

lol….I know right…

E-DUB98

I'm starting to think that people may be a little more sympathetic with recent reports about what really happened that night: http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur51705.cfm
If word can just get out about Rihanna's past history of hitting Chris, maybe the nigga won't seem like such a monster.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Bubblez589 Bubblez589

thanks. im glad somebody's sticking up for him.

http://intensedebate.com/people/musikfreak musikfreak

wat the website said about them is so true…she def had a part in this and should be facing the consequences too.

I Can't Believe it!!

@Tima1-Sorry about that…lol…No I didn't read anything before I posted. I usually don't so that I'm not influenced by what others think…sorry again.

Tell me something…does his camp read these sites? I think they should read ALL of them especially one of them that I find disturbing.

http://CHRISBROWNWEB.COM CHANTAL

U HOPE SO I WATCHED THE FIRST AND CHRIS LOOKED SO DAMN SEXYY LOL BUT I LOVE HIMM SO MUCH I HOPE THEY SHOW ITT

http://intensedebate.com/people/Bubblez589 Bubblez589

does anybody know what happened to the petition? why'd they take it down?

http://intensedebate.com/people/Bubblez589 Bubblez589

to be honest, i just pray that chris can come out of this without jail time, and rihanna without loosing every ounce of dignity she has. im praying that both of their careers will be able to recooperate. but that can only happen if they let this die down in people's minds. ppl won't forget what happened-there will always be jokes-but maybe if given enough time, they will be able to forgive them like they forgave everyone else who made mistakes.

And April 6th isn't that far away guys. I'm on Spring vacation so I know I'M not rushing it lol. but seriously, just try to focus on something else and the time will be up before you know it.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Tima1 Tima1

@I Can't Believe it!!
n/p, lol & YES THEY DO & SO DOES HE! ok, this is how I know:
This girl I know met him at M&G & he told her that he looks at CBWeb mostly.
Now I'm in hi fan club & won I west coast lyric writing contest. I was so disappointed that my M&G for him was mistakingly cancd , that I commented Chris-Daily web site. I got a disturbing eml fm Chris' mgt saying that I was not to put any negative comments about him or that contest on any blog or they would cancel my membership. SO YEA THEY DO GET AROUND THE WEB

Ciara

What about that leaked photo of Rihanna's face with injuries that was taken by police right at the scene (they said)?? That was Rihanna, and the photo is real. And the police report information, court papers, etc.. tells about it. and Chris was charged with 2 felonies (assault, making threats). We know that Chris hit Rihanna and by looking at the photo of Rihanna it wasn't just one small hit, Her face was beaten up. We don't know every little detail about what happened, But what we do know is that he did hit her, and I know you've seen the picture of Rihanna's face.

jlovecb

If the pictures were taken at the scene, then where is the blood that filled her mouth? Seems like it should be all over her face, splattered everywhere. The problem with the case is that no one can conclusively determine whether those bruises came from him continuosly punching her (they didn't ) or just hitting your face on something inside that car because they were fighting. The polce report only details what she said-but have we heard that the cell phone is evidence because blood should be all over it if she pretended to call her assistant after blood filled her mouth. Again, my question is how is a man who's beating you gonna let you call somebody and get out 2 sentences before he decides to get mad again? Come on now-why didn't he knock it out of her hand?

Jasmin

awww, he looks upset. i love him sooooooooooooo much and i hope the judge lets him off or i think i might cry! ;(

http://intensedebate.com/people/C_Jenae C_Jenae

I was wonderin dat same thing….

Rindy

If this goes to trial Chris will not be convicted of felony charges. The reason I say that is because look what happen to R Kelly and the video tape. Everybody he's guilty they have him on tape. The jury came back not guilty. They have a picture of Rihannas face. Everybody he's guilty they have Rihannas pictures.The jury is going to demonstrat what happen in the car. The affidavit has so many holes in it. How she got two knots on both sides of her forehead, the lip swollen with blood? Did they come from a person biting, punching or hitting an object in the car? They will have experts who can tell if an injury can be inflicted by fist, hands or hitting another object. How can he bite her fingers, arms, and ear while driving? How she got the keys out of the ignition if she's losing conchance? How he had her in an headlock with his right arm while driving with his left hand?

Rindy

We the jury find that Ms. Rihanna Fenty and Mr. Chris Brown where fighting each other in the car. Ms. Fenty and Mr. Brown both had seat belts on before the fight broke out ( see TMZ or youtube). Therefore he is not guilty of felony charges. When Ms. Fenty saw the text message she took off her seat belt and began a verbal and physical assult on Mr. Brown. The knots on the forehead are from her hitting the window and dashboard of the vehicle, because Chris was driving crazy, while they were fighting.The busted lip or swollen lip is from punching her in the lip or bitting her on the lip, arms, or ear because Ms. Fenty was on him while he was driving.There is no way she could of gotten the keys out of the ignition if he had her in an headlock with his right arm. Mr. Brown is guilty of verbal threats and assult as a misdeaminor charge not as a felony charge.

Taina

Euamoochriscrowneadorariaconhece-lo.

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